Do You Really Believe The Flood?
- Do you believe __The Bible__ is objective truth?
We can debate our understandings of some doctrines, even important doctrines. For example, bible translations, baptism as a moment of salvation, the charismatic gifts for today, the apocalypse, the rapture, our failed understandings of trinity…
But when we start changing clear, objective truth in the Bible, we lose the whole Bible.
Many Christians, in their heart of hearts live in deception.
My neighbor asked me about my kids, how dare you homeschool, how will they know reality…so I just asked, what is objective truth?
-United Methodist Church — UMC
-Presbyterian Church USA — PC(USA)
-United Church of Christ — UCC
-Episcopal Church
-Evangelical Lutheran Church in America — ELCA
LGBTQ Affirming sexual ethics
Ecclesiastical Authority instead of Biblical authority
Softened doctrine of judgment
Redefined repentance as a state of mind/ascension/good vibes
Atonement as universalism or pluralism
Jesus as example rather than a Savior
Mission as social justice rather than great commission
Optimistic view of human nature
- Do you believe Sons of God and human hybrid giants is objective truth?
- Do you believe a worldwide flood is objective truth?
- Do you believe the wickedness of mankind is objective truth?
- Do you believe the judgment of God is objective truth?
- Do you believe “For by grace are ye saved through faith” is objective truth?
Do you believe __Son’s of God and Human Hybrid Giants__ is objective truth?
-“That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.”
Genesis 6:2, KJV
“There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.”
Genesis 6:4, KJV
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Category |
KJV |
ESV |
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Nephilim specifically |
“giants” 3 times |
“Nephilim” 3 times |
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Verses where Nephilim appears |
2 verses |
2 verses |
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KJV “giants” plural |
13 times |
often “Nephilim” or “Rephaim” |
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KJV “giant” singular |
8 times |
often “giants,” “descendants of giants,” or “warrior” |
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KJV total giant/giants |
21 times |
fewer exact “giant/giants” uses |
KJV uses “giant/giants” for several Hebrew words
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Hebrew word |
KJV rendering |
Basic idea |
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Nephilim |
giants |
Genesis 6 / Numbers 13 beings |
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Rephaim |
giants |
ancient giant-associated people group |
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Rapha / Raphah |
giant |
giant line connected to Gath |
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Gibbor |
giant |
mighty one / warrior, Job 16:14 |
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Human Hybrids, Alien Hybrids, Demon Hybrids, Neoantd?
Denisova 11 / “Denny” |
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A girl from Denisova Cave in Siberia |
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Her DNA showed she had a Neanderthal mother and a Denisovan father. This is the clearest direct hybrid ever found. The father also had some Neanderthal ancestry farther back. |
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Second Temple Jewish literature |
Book of Giants / Watchers tradition |
Expands Genesis 6 into a story of Watchers, giant offspring, judgment, and Enoch. Qumran had multiple Aramaic manuscripts/fragments of this tradition. |
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Mesopotamia |
Gilgamesh / Enkidu / Humbaba |
Gilgamesh is a superhuman king; the epic survives on Akkadian tablets from Nineveh, with older Sumerian stories behind it. Britannica notes no historical evidence for the exploits, but the tradition is ancient and real. |
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Greek mythology |
Gigantes |
Earthborn giant beings, children of Gaia/Earth and Uranus/Heaven; fought the Olympians in the Gigantomachy. |
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Greek mythology |
Titans |
Older divine race before the Olympian gods; not always “giants” in the modern sense, but giant/titanic beings in the primeval conflict pattern. |
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Greek mythology |
Cyclopes |
One-eyed giants, including Polyphemus in the Odyssey. |
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Greek mythology |
Laestrygonians |
Cannibal giants encountered by Odysseus. |
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Greek mythology |
Antaeus, Tityos, Orion |
Giant or giant-like figures defeated by heroes or gods. |
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Norse mythology |
Jötnar / frost giants / fire giants |
Primeval beings older than the gods; often enemies, sometimes relatives, of the gods. |
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Norse mythology |
Ymir / Aurgelmir |
First giant; father of giants. Odin and his brothers kill him and form the world from his body. |
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Norse mythology |
Surtr |
Fire giant associated with the destruction at Ragnarök. |
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Norse mythology |
Þrymr, Geirröd, Útgarða-Loki |
Giant adversaries in Thor/Loki stories. |
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Anglo-Saxon / Germanic |
Eotenas / entish giants / Grendel’s kin |
In Beowulf, monstrous descendants are linked with Cain imagery and giant/ogre traditions. |
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Irish / Celtic |
Fomoire / Fomorians |
Demonic, monstrous race threatening Ireland until defeated by the Tuatha Dé Danann; Balor is their one-eyed leader. |
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Irish / Celtic |
Balor |
Deadly one-eyed Fomorian giant/monster defeated by Lugh. |
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Irish / Scottish folklore |
Fionn mac Cumhaill / Finn McCool |
Later folklore makes him giant-like, especially in Giant’s Causeway legends. |
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Irish / Scottish folklore |
Benandonner |
Scottish giant in the Giant’s Causeway story. |
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Welsh / British |
Brân the Blessed |
Giant king in Welsh tradition; his body and head have supernatural scale. |
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British medieval legend |
Gog and Magog |
Giant figures connected to London and Britain’s legendary past; Britannica mentions them as Cornish giants captured by Brutus. |
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Cornish legend |
Gogmagog / Corineus |
Corineus wrestles and defeats the giant Gogmagog. |
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Cornish folklore |
Cormoran / Blunderbore |
Giants in Cornish and “Jack the Giant-Killer” traditions. |
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Basque folklore |
Jentilak |
Ancient race of giants said to have lived before Christianity. |
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Basque folklore |
Tartalo |
One-eyed giant/ogre, similar in pattern to the Cyclops. |
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Slavic folklore |
Volot / Velikan |
Giant beings in Russian and Slavic tales. |
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Russian epic |
Svyatogor |
Giant bogatyr/hero so heavy the earth can barely bear him. |
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Finnish / Estonian |
Kaleva / Kalevipoeg |
Giant-hero traditions tied to landscape formation. |
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Chinese mythology |
Pan Gu / Pangu |
Primeval creation figure; in one legend the universe comes from his gigantic corpse—eyes become sun and moon, blood rivers, body soil. |
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Chinese mythology |
Kuafu |
Giant who chases the sun and dies of thirst; his staff becomes a peach forest. |
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Japanese folklore |
Oni |
Demonic creatures often of giant size and great strength. |
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Japanese folklore |
Daidarabotchi |
Colossal giant/yōkai whose footprints form lakes and whose movements shape the land. |
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Hindu / Indian epic |
Rakshasas |
Giant-like demonic beings; Kumbhakarna is a massive giant warrior in the Ramayana. |
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Hindu / Indian mythology |
Daityas / Danavas / Asuras |
Titan-like beings opposing the devas; not always “giants,” but function like giant enemy races. |
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Persian / Iranian |
Divs / Daevas |
Demon/giant beings in Iranian epic, especially the Shahnameh. |
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Arabian / Islamic tradition |
ʿĀd / people of Iram |
Often remembered in Islamic tradition as a mighty, ancient people of extraordinary stature. |
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Islamic / biblical apocalyptic |
Gog and Magog / Yājūj and Mājūj |
Chaotic end-times peoples, sometimes imagined as monstrous or giant-like. |
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Aztec / Mesoamerican |
Quinametzin |
Giants in Aztec creation-era myths, linked to previous world ages and sometimes to monumental construction. |
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Andean / Peruvian |
Giants arriving by sea |
Pedro Cieza de León preserves a colonial-era report of local stories about giants arriving near Santa Elena; Cambridge lists the chapter specifically as “of the story they tell respecting the arrival of giants.” |
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Native American / Paiute |
Si-Te-Cah |
Northern Paiute-associated legend of red-haired cannibal giants around Lovelock Cave; the folklore is real, but the giant skeleton claims are disputed. |
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Native American / Iroquois |
Stone Giants |
Cannibal stone-coated giants in Haudenosaunee/Iroquois tradition. |
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Cherokee tradition |
Tsul ‘Kalu |
Giant “slant-eyed” supernatural hunter figure. |
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Navajo / Diné tradition |
Yé’iitsoh and monster giants |
Giant monsters defeated by the Hero Twins. |
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Pacific traditions |
Māui and other giant culture heroes |
In Polynesian traditions, heroes can have giant-like cosmic strength—pulling up islands, slowing the sun, shaping land. |
Verified real giants: medical gigantism
This is the strongest modern evidence. There absolutely have been real humans who were “giants” by any ordinary standard.
Sultan Kösen is the tallest living person officially measured by Guinness: 251 cm / 8 ft 2.8 in, measured in Türkiye on February 8, 2011. Guinness states his size is caused by pituitary gigantism from overproduction of growth hormone.
Medical literature confirms this mechanism: pituitary gigantism is a rare condition caused by excessive growth hormone during childhood, before the growth plates close.
Old newspaper reports of giant skeletons
There are many 1800s and early 1900s newspaper reports claiming giant skeletons. That is real as a historical phenomenon.
Do you believe a __worldwide flood__ is objective truth?
“And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were covered.”
Genesis 7:19, KJV
“The fountains also of the deep and the windows of heaven were stopped, and the rain from heaven was restrained;”
Genesis 8:2, KJV
Genesis 10:32…all the nations have a flood story.
The oldest written flood traditions come from ancient Mesopotamia—the same region that gave us the earliest writing. On clay tablets and prisms, the Sumerians and Babylonians remembered a world before the Flood, a divine judgment, a chosen survivor, a boat, animals preserved, sacrifice afterward, and life beginning again. And beyond Mesopotamia, flood traditions appear across Greek, Indian, Chinese, Mesoamerican, Andean, Indigenous North American, Polynesian, African, and European cultures.
Three Flood proofs:
- Marine fossils on mountains
- Huge fossil graveyards from rapid burial
- Massive sedimentary rock layers spread across continents
- Underground Caverns the size of states, below the ocean floor.
- Elemental Ringwoodite a solid that turns to water
If you lose a worldwide flood, you lose the whole Bible as objective truth
“And I will establish my covenant with you; neither shall all flesh be cut off any more by the waters of a flood; neither shall there any more be a flood to destroy the earth.”
Genesis 9:11, KJV
Do you believe the ____wickedness of mankind____ is objective truth?
“And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.”
Genesis 6:5, KJV
After the Flood, God says:
“...for the imagination of man’s heart is evil from his youth...”
Genesis 8:21, KJV
Jesus says the same basic truth about the human heart:
“For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies:”
Matthew 15:19, KJV
Many believers think the World is getting better, but that is because it is getting worse!
"And because lawlessness will abound, the love of many will grow cold." - Matthew 24:12
Some people believe humanity is getting better. We are more educated, more scientific, more technological, more enlightened. But Tim Keller pointed out that this was exactly the dream of nineteenth-century humanism: as religion declined, warfare and violence would decline with it. But the twentieth century did not give us paradise. It gave us world wars, death camps, gulags, eugenics, communist purges, and mass killing on a scale the world had never seen in raw numbers. The problem was not lack of education. The problem was the human heart. -Making Sense of God, Tim Keller
WHO data put recent global abortions at about 73 million per year, so the 20-year total is in the 1.4–1.5 billion range.
Pam Barr’s story.
“I thought I was saving these children from horrible lives or keeping them out of the foster system where they may have had horrible experiences, protecting them from child abuse and poverty,” Pam said. “You tell yourself that you’re giving this person a chance to finish college, or they’re not ready to be parents. There are a million excuses that people can make up, and the deeper into the evil you get, the easier it is not to see the evil and to cover up murder by lying to yourself.”
“But I can never forget the sound of those special clamps crushing the skull, so we could get it out through the cervix,” Pam said. “And that deforms the skull when you crush it. So, these didn’t all look like cute, sweet little babies. They’d been brutalized to death.”
We read that, and think, I’m not guilty. No, its just so bad, that your love is cold, the scripture says we are all guilty of this evil in our nation.
Rescue those who are being taken away to death;
hold back those who are stumbling to the slaughter.
If you say, “Behold, we did not know this,”
does not he who weighs the heart perceive it?
Does not he who keeps watch over your soul know it,
and will he not repay man according to his work?
Proverbs 24:11–12, ESV
Do you believe _the judgement of God_ is objective truth?
Pam’s Story:
“It was 22,000 lives that I directly or indirectly helped to end, to murder,” Pam said. “When I looked at that number, I realized it was about the same size as a whole high school gymnasium full of people who would never learn what God had planned for their lives.”
How could God really drown everyone, pregnant mom’s, kids ect…?
“And, behold, I, even I, do bring a flood of waters upon the earth, to destroy all flesh, wherein is the breath of life, from under heaven; and every thing that is in the earth shall die.”
Genesis 6:17, KJV
“Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire…”
2 Peter 3:6–7, KJV
There are so many “conservatives” not in church because we either scream the truth in hate, like fools, or we don’t even speak of it. So, those convicted by God, to vote, to be a part of society, to have “family values”, they stay away from church. Because if we don’t talk about the judgement of God, and they know we all deserve it.
“Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit. He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal.”
John 12:24–25, KJV
“And when he had called the people unto him with his disciples also, he said unto them, Whosoever will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me. For whosoever will save his life shall lose it; but whosoever shall lose his life for my sake and the gospel’s, the same shall save it.”
Mark 8:34–35, KJV
“Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.”
Romans 6:3–4, KJV
“He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.”
John 3:36, KJV
“And those that entered, male and female of all flesh, went in as God had commanded him. And the LORD shut him in.”
Genesis 7:16, ESV
Do you believe _For by grace are ye saved through faith_ is objective truth?
Pam’s Story: “God forgave every evil thing that I ever did, saw, or thought. Now it’s my job to tell the world just how much He loves us and will forgive us. He wishes for no one to perish. And if he will forgive such evil as that, it’s amazing grace. There is just no love to describe what he did for us freely. All we have to do is believe and accept. And that’s why I can stand in front of people unashamedly and tell them what God has redeemed me from.”
“For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Not of works, lest any man should boast.”
Ephesians 2:8–9, KJV
“By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith.”
Hebrews 11:7, KJV
“But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD.”
Genesis 6:8, KJV
“And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;”
2 Peter 2:5, KJV
“Make thee an ark of gopher wood; rooms shalt thou make in the ark, and shalt pitch it within and without with pitch.”
Genesis 6:14, KJV
Most boats are sealed with pitch on the outside to keep water out, not on the inside where wood needs to breathe
Hebrew vs English OT word count
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Count |
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Hebrew OT total words |
419,687 |
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KJV OT total words |
610,296 |
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Difference |
190,609 more English words |
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Percent difference |
about 45% more English words |
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Unique words: Hebrew vs EnglishThis depends on whether you count roots, lemmas, or inflected forms.
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Kopher — כֹּפֶר — KJV Uses
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In 1700s English, “pitch” meant a thickened resin or tar used to smear and seal. Noah’s ark was covered inside and outside with pitch — a physical covering that kept the waters of judgment out. In Hebrew, that word connects to covering, ransom, and atonement.